CHRISTMAS GIFT BOX FOR ALL

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From:  simgarie  
Nov-28 10:48 am 
To:  ALL  (1 of 38) 
43260.1  

Happy Holidays and Best wishes from Singapore!
http://www.garieinternational.com.sg/clay/polymer_styrofoam.htm
New Gift Box Technique for all


 
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From:  vlady6  
Nov-28 11:44 am 
To:  simgarie
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love the pictures of the kids a lot. they are just so talented. sandie

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From:  Dweeble (LindaW75)   
Nov-28 12:29 pm 
To:  simgarie
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How cool is that!!!  I never would have thought to use styrofoam in that capacity.  Wow...and I just trashed a bunch of it because I didn't have anything to do with it.  Now I'm sorry I did.  =(

I always enjoy the pictures of your "Kreative Kids"!!!
It's Jester Clay

Hearts for Heroes

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From:  ginger432000  
Nov-28 2:19 pm 
To:  simgarie
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Good idea ty for sharing. Ginger

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From:  clayfeet  
Nov-28 2:46 pm 
To:  simgarie
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I love the stuff these kids are doing! But I've heard that styrofoam is a supreme no-no in the oven. I know Europe has a different kind of styrofoam that is okay to bake.... Is that what you're using, or does the fact that you cover it with aluminum foil take away any danger of toxicity?? If that's the case, I think you've opened up a whole new world of possibilities here!

Barbara
http://hometown.aol.com/clayfeetcreation/index.html

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From:  Ilene2004   
Nov-28 3:01 pm 
To:  simgarie
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I love seeing how your "kids" use polymer clay to make all sorts of wonderful things! You are  a great teacher!

Ilene 

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From:  tstet  
Nov-28 5:15 pm 
To:  clayfeet
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If you feel like wading through some jumbled info on various foams, etc. look on this page (and an advanced Google search at glassattic.com gives some other hits too)
http://glassattic.com/polymer/MainPages/covering.htm#plastics

Ya know, I just got DH a combo birthday/Christmas present of some Hot Wire cutting tools (as mentioned on that Glass Attic page), but hadn't given any thought to combining it with clay yet. What's up with that?

Teri S

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From:  Tx_Becca   
Nov-28 6:23 pm 
To:  simgarie
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 Bad idea... styrofoam is highly combustible, it emits toxic fumes, and gasses that can  lead to things such as flash fires when you open the oven, and  leave a residue that can damage the elements and/render the oven useless..  Not to mention, no one needs to be breathing the air from it.    It emits. isopentane fumes ("central nervous system depressant. High vapour concentrations may cause headache, nausea, dizziness, drowsiness, confusion, unconsciousness and death" ) Click here to read about the fumes. http://www.intox.org/databank/documents/chemical/pentane/cie248.htm

Edited 11/28/2005 6:29 pm by Tx_Becca

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From:  simgarie  
Nov-28 6:26 pm 
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vlady6
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Hi Thanks,
I hope that all the kids can aquire my skill and there will be more people into polymer clay.
Regards,
Garie

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From:  simgarie  
Nov-28 6:35 pm 
To:  Dweeble (LindaW75)  
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43260.10 in reply to 43260.3  

Hello, There's plenty around keep some you never know when you gonna to use it.
Also you can probably buy them in the art shop. This is an interesting material to go with polymer clay. Styrofoam can be shape, so you can also make things in polymer clay and floats in water. You can also make bigger boxes and create compartment in it.

Thanks,
Regards,
Garie

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From:  simgarie  
Nov-28 6:37 pm 
To:  ginger432000
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Thanks Ginger, we must always share our works, otherwise the World will be a boring place for polymer clay.
Regards,
Garie

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From:  SherryBinNH  
Nov-28 6:55 pm 
To:  Tx_Becca  
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43260.12 in reply to 43260.8  

Well said, Rebecca

Don't I recall that some styrofoam when burned emits cyanide gas??

**IF** you do everything right and are lucky it can be used and has been, but the hazards are way too high for me, thanks! Especially with small pets in the house. (Compared to what styrofoam can do in an oven, using polymer clay tools for food is absolutely silly -- you could eat the clay with less serious effects!!

Your mileage may vary, I suppose...

Sherry Bailey

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From:  clayfeet  
Nov-28 6:58 pm 
To:  tstet
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Thanks Teri, but I could live without wading through Glassattic. Is there something particular you wanted to tell me about?
I just know styrofoam (at least all the styrofoam in the US) is bad news in the oven, and I guess I'm waiting for someone to say how this could possibly be otherwise. I'm not sure aluminum foil is a way to make it foolproof-safe.

Barbara
http://hometown.aol.com/clayfeetcreation/index.html

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From:  simgarie  
Nov-28 7:10 pm 
To:  clayfeet
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Hi,
Thanks, yes styrofoam will burn and it is the same as shrinking plastic. Everyone is worry about the toxic fume and it is an important issue especially when you are using the home oven for baking clay. We must observe proper rules when baking alienated
material in the oven. Just like polymer clay, never set above the temperature that will cause it to burn and gives out toxic fume. Clean the oven and always place a ceramic tile below your clay project. Do not bake styrofoam in the small toaster oven without shielding and constant observation of your project when baking.
The foil will not take away any danger of toxicity, it is just a layer to separate the clay and the foam. If you were to cover directly with polymer clay, one of the side of the box will crack during the shrinking process. You can used any other separator, the material should react with the styrofoam. Foil is the best and try to use foils that are not thick.
I have experiment with Styrofoam and poly ball for years and here is the link to the other project. When accidental cracking with direct application of PC to foam, becomes an accidental art as the crack was naturally done by the shrinking foam ball. My original idea was to cut the Gourd so that you can view the inside.
http://www.garieinternational.com.sg/clay/magic_gourd.htm
Regards,
Garie

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From:  simgarie  
Nov-28 7:13 pm 
To:  Ilene2004  
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Hello,
Teaching kids is fun and interesting, you must create ideas to make them learn.
Regards,
Garie

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From:  simgarie  
Nov-28 7:22 pm 
To:  Tx_Becca  
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43260.16 in reply to 43260.8  

Hi Thanks, for the concern and I just explain to Barbara (Clayfeet), about the safty rule that we must observed at all time when baking any alienated object in the home oven. You can refer to my reply.
Regards,
Garie

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From:  Jayann517  
Nov-28 10:05 pm 
To:  simgarie
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43260.17 in reply to 43260.1  

WOW I didn't know you could put styrofoam in the oven. that opens up sooooooo many possibilities.VBG

jayann

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From:  Hypno_angel  
Nov-29 12:58 am 
To:  simgarie
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43260.18 in reply to 43260.1  

Hi Garie,

I am new to polymer clay and originally found your website when I was looking for tutorials. I fell in love with your little aquafloats as I have a 42 gallon fish tank in my house and I built 300 gallon goldfish pond in my yard. I have not tried to make one yet though, as I too have been worried about the toxic fumes. You see, I do have 3 dogs and a cat on top of the 20 or so fish I have. I think I will finally try it. Thanks for sharing your talent with the world, especially the children.

Becky

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From:  Sally (SBURCH2)    
Nov-29 1:06 am 
To:  Jayann517
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43260.19 in reply to 43260.17  

Read the above posts.  If you're at all worried about fumes, don't use styrofoam in the oven.

Sally 

Pray for Peace in the Middle East and all the world over.

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From:  Marcella (MarcellaB2)  
Nov-29 3:11 am 
To:  simgarie
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43260.20 in reply to 43260.14  

..."yes, styrofoam will burn and it is the same as shrinking plastic."

..."Just like polymer clay, never set above the temperature that will cause it to burn and gives out toxic fume."

Hi Garie,
What temperature melts styrofoam? Doesn't the shrinking styrofoam indicate that it's melting and thus cause fumes?

I was reading the MSDS and it looks like it takes over 600F to actually ignite styrofoam (if I read it correctly), and to avoid temps above 480F generally, but I'd still be concerned about fumes when baking in an oven.

Marcella
Studio M Designs

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From:  simgarie  
Nov-29 5:16 am 
To:  Jayann517
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43260.21 in reply to 43260.17  

Hi, Thanks, it is fun to share ideas and technique it will expands a whole new way of creating thing with polymer clay.
Regards,
Garie

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From:  simgarie  
Nov-29 5:27 am 
To:  Hypno_angel
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43260.22 in reply to 43260.18  

Thanks Becky, if I am residing in your country I will love to pay you a visit and bring along my Aquafloats. Its a fun place and I love big aquarium, you can sit there and watch the fishes swimming. Anyway, you should try to create them don't worry about the fume as the styrofoam usage is so little. For your information, I have baked box styrofoam about 1 3/4 inches x 1 3/4 inches, it shrunk to 3/4 inch x 3/4 inch and I bake it for 45 minute and I don't smell any fumes. At that tiny size the foam is hard just like the plastic hobby model material.
Have fun!
Regards,
Garie

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From:  simgarie  
Nov-29 5:38 am 
To:  Marcella (MarcellaB2)
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43260.23 in reply to 43260.20  

Hi,
As the foam shrunk it is actually compressing into its original pellet size and at 130ºC it will not melt the styrofoam. It will only melt when you set it to a higher temperature say, 200ºC. Burning the foam will produced the toxic fumes it is the same as plastic hobby material and burning polymer clay at that temperature will also produced toxic fumes.
I have experimented for years and it does not produced any nauseating smell, even you are baking at 130ºC for 1 hour. What you get is a little hard plastic material shrunk from 1 3/4 inches x 1 3/4 inches to 3/4inch x 3/4inch. if you tossed it onto the ground you can here a " Clink" sound.

Thanks,
Regards,
Garie

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From:  ginger432000  
Nov-29 7:36 am 
To:  simgarie
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I agree :o}

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From:  Hypno_angel  
Nov-29 11:14 am 
To:  simgarie
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43260.25 in reply to 43260.22  

Hi Garie,

Well comne on down to Texas. We have room for you! :) I love my fish too. They are so relaxing. I will try your aquafloats. Though knowing me, they are not going to be wearing blue and black. They may however wear tie dye, or hot pink, or maybe purple. LOL Welcome to our country. Kick off your shoes and stay a while! ;-)

Becky
http://www.freewebs.com/hypnoangel /

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From:  simgarie  
Nov-29 12:50 pm 
To:  Hypno_angel
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Hi,

I accept your invitation but, I need to free myself from my busy schedule.
I am a big magnet to some of my students and if I am not around to
teach them, some will be sad and others will cry.
I enjoy travelling to other country and meeting people.

Regards,
Garie

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From:  Hypno_angel  
Nov-29 3:36 pm 
To:  simgarie
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43260.27 in reply to 43260.26  

hi Garie,

I can understand them missing a teach how is so obviously fun and full of live and creativity. You are still more than welcome down here in West Texas.

Becky

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From:  Marcella (MarcellaB2)  
Nov-30 2:49 am 
To:  simgarie
 (28 of 38) 
43260.28 in reply to 43260.23  

..."if you tossed it onto the ground you can here a " Clink" sound."

I had no idea it got that hard. Very interesting.

Thanks for the info,

Marcella

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From:  simgarie  
Nov-30 12:43 pm 
To:  Marcella (MarcellaB2)
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43260.29 in reply to 43260.28  

Hi,
You should try out the technique, I just posted my link.
More information about Testing the combination of styrofoam with polymer clay,
http://www.garieinternational.com.sg/clay/pc_foam.htm
Thanks,
Regards,
Garie

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From:  catzen39  
Nov-30 8:22 pm 
To:  simgarie
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43260.30 in reply to 43260.1  

FREAKIN' COOL! wow! i love 'em!

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From:  catzen39  
Nov-30 9:31 pm 
To:  clayfeet unread
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43260.31 in reply to 43260.13  

finally someone else ... who doesn't care to 'wade' through the glass attic info. i mean, it's great, tons of info, but i just can't seem to get into it. and i thought it was just me! haha!

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From:  Ilene2004   
Nov-30 9:34 pm 
To:  catzen39
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No, it's not just you! There's so much information at glass attic that it's mind blowing! You really need time to read it and absorb it. I've been reading it for over a year and I'm still plowing thru it !

Ilene

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From:  simgarie  
Dec-1 1:03 am 
To:  catzen39
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43260.33 in reply to 43260.30  

Hi,
Thanks, I hope my research and experiment would expand more creative option in the use of polymer clay.

Regards,
Garie

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From:  naamaza   
Dec-1 6:34 am 
To:  simgarie
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43260.34 in reply to 43260.29  

wow it opens a whole new world...

Naama

http://www.naamaza.com

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From:  simgarie  
Dec-1 8:03 am 
To:  naamaza  
 (35 of 38) 
43260.35 in reply to 43260.34  

Yes! it will opens a new horizon into creativity in polymer clay.
I was told by others in your country that the Styrofoam material
are not the same as that in Singapore.
I made an enquiry with some of our local manufacturer for styrofoam
and was told that the styrofoam material is created from Expanded Polystyrene
Resin and the raw material is the same in other country or US.
Here is the US link,

http://www.powersourcing.com/sf/expandedpolystyreneresin.htm

Regards,
Garie

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From:  naamaza   
Dec-1 11:02 am 
To:  simgarie
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43260.36 in reply to 43260.35  

thank you Garie fro the info- when i added the link you sent to my Israeli messege board i was told by one of the participants exactly the same thing- she said that she also covered a stear poam with Fimo Soft and had no problem with it... sounds even more interesting since it opens more possibilities... we have to look at the bright side...

Naama

http://www.naamaza.com

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From:  Liz (holelix12)  
Dec-2 5:12 pm 
To:  simgarie
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43260.37 in reply to 43260.1  

That is so neat. I would have never thought of using styrofoam with polymer clay.

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From:  simgarie  
Dec-2 7:49 pm 
To:  Liz (holelix12) unread
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43260.38 in reply to 43260.37  

Yes, Neat is the word, imagine you can create miniature dollhouses with lighted interiors and dioramas.............snowy winterland.
Best Wishes!

Regards,
Garie

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