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Subject: [clay-polymer] Create Your Own PC Paints and Realistic Miniature Cakes Date: 05 May 2006 AM 12:50:45 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com POLYCLAYLIC Paint) create any color any mixture, endless possibilities, miniature foods, cakes, jewelry effects and design, clay painting, stickers, etc. .......... the only limitation to creativity with POLYCLAYLIC paint is in our own minds. Also example of how to use POLYCLAYLIC paint combine with baking soda to create realistic miniature cakes and making a 1/12 scale stainless steel kitchen knife with floppy disc shutter. http://www.garieinternational.com.sg/clay/miniature_cake.htm  Subject: Re: [clay-polymer] Create Your Own PC Paints and Realistic Miniature Cakes Date: 05 May 2006 AM 01:58:37 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [clay-polymer] Create Your Own PC Paints and Realistic Miniature Cakes Date: 05 May 2006 AM 01:40:18 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Wow! I couldn't figure out what was new and exciting in the tutorial until I got to the cake texture. That was a great discovery you made and I can see applying it in many different ways! Thank you so much! Patti S. Subject: paint thinner Date: 05 May 2006 AM 02:47:52 To: garie@cyberway.com.sg Reply-To: pbarnes@the-i.net Subject: Re: paint thinner Date: 05 May 2006 AM 08:11:35 To: pbarnes The thinner is use for mixing with vinyl paint to thin it or dilute it when painting wooden staircase railing, doors and windows. You can also mix the thinner with lacquer so that the varnish of the floor will dry faster. I think it is a common household solvent. I am not sure what brand that is available, but it is also use in thinning the car paints use in spray painting auto repair workshop. http://www.midwayautosupply.com/detailedproductdescription.asp?12822 The above should be the type as I read the information and they are not expensive solvent. Regarding the safty concerns, I have created many mixtures, and baked them in the oven at 130ºC it will not ignite or create fume in the oven even at 150ºC for 20 to 30 minutes. Regards, Garie Subject: Re: [clay-polymer] Create Your Own PC Paints and Realistic Miniature Cakes Date: 05 May 2006 AM 03:29:54 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: paint thinner Date: 05 May 2006 AM 09:27:06 To: garie@starhub.net.sg Reply-To: pbarnes@the-i.net Patty Subject: [clay-polymer] poly paint Date: 05 May 2006 AM 10:22:05 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com me and people who work with P C by doing all the experimenting with the different ways that the clay can be used. It is a pleasure visiting your site and learning all these things. And the work your "kids" do is facinating. Love your work. Thanks. Joan Subject: [clay-polymer] Re: Create Your Own PC Paints and Realistic Miniature Cakes Date: 05 May 2006 PM 01:04:27 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Have fun trying the new method. Regards, Garie Subject: Re: [clay-polymer] Re: Create Your Own PC Paints and Realistic Miniature Cakes Date: 05 May 2006 PM 02:29:22 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Do you have other tuts that we can look at? I would love to see them if so.........Karen in WA. Subject: [clay-polymer] Re: Create Your Own PC Paints and Realistic Miniature Cakes Date: 05 May 2006 PM 03:53:20 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Thanks Karen, Regards, Garie Subject: [clay-polymer] Re: Create Your Own PC Paints and Realistic Miniature Cakes Date: 06 May 2006 AM 09:47:26 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com areas, appreciates all the different fine, creative polymer clay projects contributed by others. Know your art medium especially polymer clay. Garie Subject: [clay-polymer] Re: Create Your Own PC Paints and Realistic Miniature Cakes Date: 06 May 2006 AM 10:00:01 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com this method you can create breads, pastry and cakes and the standard is the textures. Another clayer even wrote to me, jokingly ask me whether I can create the aroma of the cake, since it looks so realistic. Well............I told her anything is possible and maybe I should give it a try. Garie Subject: [clay-polymer] Re: Create Your Own PC Paints and Realistic Miniature Cakes Date: 07 May 2006 PM 10:28:57 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com lot. What kind of thinner do you use to make the polyclaylic paint? I am not a painter and not that familiar with solvents. Would mineral oil work? Nancy Subject: [clay-polymer] Re: Create Your Own PC Paints and Realistic Miniature Cakes Date: 07 May 2006 PM 10:45:52 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com it or dilute it when painting wooden staircase railing, doors and windows. You can also mix the thinner with lacquer so that the varnish of the floor will dry faster. I am not sure what brand that is available, but it is also use in thinning the car paints, in spray painting auto repair workshop. http://www.midwayautosupply.com/detailedproductdescription.asp?12822 The above should be the type as I read the information and they are not expensive solvent. Garie Subject: RE: [clay-polymer] Re: Create Your Own PC Paints and Realistic Miniature Cakes Date: 08 May 2006 AM 02:25:18 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com I was following this thread and saw the comments about using solvents with the polymer clay to thin and dissolve them. I missed this the first time around, thinking the dissolving was done with a liquid poly clay medium. So, I went back and re-read the tutorial. Now, I have a couple of questions. product, as a varnish or paint, on baked clay pieces or it will cause it to become sticky, which does not go away, even with further baking. So I am wondering what happens to the end product when you use so much thinner that it dissolves the clay. In you tutorial, does the dolphin or the cake have any kind of a stickiness feel or do they come out perfectly smooth? that turpentine or mineral spirits should be avoided. But, because it didn't mention the generic name for the type of solvents that are okay to use, it wasn't clear (to me, anyway, but I can be dense). it. It is also okay to use oil paint to antique baked pieces. The basis of oil paint, to thin it, is either mineral spirits or turpentine. However, it is NOT okay to use acrylic nail polish directly on cured clay, or it will soften it. gave an example link to? Would something like acrylic nail polish remover work? Perhaps you can give a little more detail to this in the tutorial? I, for one, would really appreciate it. baking soda. The diagram says baking powder, but the words say baking soda and the pictures shows what I believe is baking soda. Patti Subject: Re: [clay-polymer] Create Your Own PC Paints and Realistic Miniature Cakes Date: 08 May 2006 AM 05:04:51 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com I looked at your tute and found it very interesting and especially liked the cake idea. But I had a question about baking the styrofoam to make the cake pan. I was always under the impression that baking styrofoam was a bad idea, that toxic fumes would occur. Does the fact that it was wrapped in foil make a difference? Great job. Gwen Subject: [clay-polymer] Re: Create Your Own PC Paints and Realistic Miniature Cakes Date: 08 May 2006 AM 08:45:34 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com thinner and available at our local paint shop in bottles. This is what I told Patty about the thinner,The thinner is use for mixing with vinyl paint to thin it or dilute it when painting wooden staircase railing, doors and windows.You can also mix the thinner with lacquer so that the varnish of the floor will dry faster. I think it is a common household solvent. I am not sure what brand that is available, but it is also use in thinning the car paints use in spray painting auto repair workshop.http://www.midwayautosupply.com/detailedproductdescription.asp?12822 The above should be the type as I read the information and they are not expensive solvent.Regarding the safty concerns, I have created many mixtures, and baked them in the oven at 130ºC it will not ignite or create fume in the oven even at 150ºC for 20 to 30 minutes. I 've experimented and soaks the PC Paints (Polyclaylic paint) in film container for over 4 months, the one that's with more thinners will evaporates and living behind that looks like fine mud cake. In its semi wet state, I use cotton bud or index finger to dab a little and apply it to eg. cute doll figurine for rosy cheeks. Those that are treated with lesser thinner becomes dry color cake after the thinner evaporates. Pressing and rolling with a small roller becomes fine powder (polymer clay powder) at this stage the experiments are not treated with Translucent Liquid Sculpey or Fimo Deko Gel.I apply a little Fimo Deko Gel and mixed them and It becomes polymer clay again, baking it in the oven for about 15 minutes at about 1mm thickness the clay is flexible.I have used Kerosene, turpentine it will not dissolve the PC and nail polish remover will not work or melt the clay. I have use nail polish remover for removing superglue on my fingers.Baking Powder is our local term for Baking Soda Garie Subject: [clay-polymer] Re: Create Your Own PC Paints and Realistic Miniature Cakes Date: 08 May 2006 AM 09:00:56 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com http://www.garieinternational.com.sg/clay/pc_foam.htm http://www.garieinternational.com.sg/clay/baking_foam.htm At 130ºC even putting the foam in the oven for more than 45 minutes will not burn the foam. Only burning Styrofoam will have fumes, wrapping in foils is basically for easy separation between the polymer clay and styrofoam. Anyway, I have use tiny foam to create the miniature cake tray. Regards, Garie Subject: [clay-polymer] Re: Create Your Own PC Paints and Realistic Miniature Cakes Date: 09 May 2006 AM 01:07:13 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com some. I also forgot to mention how interesting I thought your test was of the comparison between the Fimo gel and liquid polymer clay. I have some of this gel and didn't really know what to do with it. Subject: Re: [clay-polymer] Re: Create Your Own PC Paints and Realistic Miniature Cakes Date: 09 May 2006 AM 06:34:37 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com fumes. Thanks for the info and for sharing the results of all your testing. Gwen Subject: [clay-polymer] Re: Create Your Own PC Paints and Realistic Miniature Cakes Date: 09 May 2006 AM 07:49:54 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com All the raw materials for styrofoam is the same as what our manufacturer is using, they import from US. Check it out with your manufacturer. 1/12/2005, I made an enquiry with some of our local manufacturer for styrofoam and was told that the styrofoam material is created from Expanded Polystyrene Resin and the raw material is the same in other country or US. http://www.powersourcing.com/sf/expandedpolystyreneresin.htm Polystyrene Facts http://inventors.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.polystyrene.org/ Polystyrene Ball Use For Making Fimo Doll http://www.garieinternational.com.sg/clay/shop/fimo_dolly.htm<< minutes, it will just shrunk and compress into a tiny hard cube. Regards, Garie Subject: [clay-polymer] Re: Create Your Own PC Paints and Realistic Miniature Cakes Date: 09 May 2006 AM 07:52:47 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Garie Subject: [clay-polymer] Re: Create Your Own PC Paints and Realistic Miniature Cakes Date: 09 May 2006 AM 07:56:51 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Always happy to share, Garie Subject: Re: [clay-polymer] Re: Create Your Own PC Paints and Realistic Miniature Cakes- Garie Date: 09 May 2006 AM 08:07:58 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com I find it fascinating all the work you do with the children - and all the knowledge you have. I also saw some of your newpaper articles - very, very interesting !!!!! I love the PC paints - I would have never come up with that one !!!!! Marvelous - and cannot wait to try it - as I'm new to Polymer clay - but I'm sure I'll find something I could make to give it that enameling look !!!! I have a few questions for you - I was just wondering if you happen to have any tutorials that show a hollow filligree type bead made with the styrofoam procedure ??? Or anything bead wise related to that process ????Also, anything with the PC paints in a Cloissone type bead or pendant, etc ?????Please let me know - it has been a pleasure reading about you and the wonderful work and participation you have with children - I love children - unfortunately - I wasn't blessed with any !!! Yami Subject: Re: [clay-polymer] Re: Create Your Own PC Paints and Realistic Miniature Cakes- Garie Date: 09 May 2006 PM 09:59:16 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Hi, and welcome. You can also use Translucent Liquid Sculpy (TLS) or Kato Medium and add alcohol based inks.. Like Pinata colors... It might take a bit less time and you can make a lot of colors to paint with a liquid polymer paint. http://www.jacquardproducts.com/products/pinata/ Lorrene Hi Garie -"... I love the PC paints - I would have never come up with that one !!!!! Marvelous - and cannot wait to try it - as I'm new to Polymer clay - but I'm sure I'll find something I could make to give it that enameling look !!!!..." Master Instructor, Art Clay Silver - Artist Polymer Clay Instructor - Artist http://www.freewebs.com/ljdavisdesigns/index.htm Subject: [clay-polymer] Re: Create Your Own PC Paints and Realistic Miniature Cakes- Garie Date: 09 May 2006 PM 10:49:16 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com bead made with the styrofoam procedure ??? In creating a hollow beads, use small styrofoam ball. For small scale don't use foil to wrap the small Styrofoam ball, otherwise it will be difficult to remove the foils inside the hollow ball. Apply a layer of separator onto the styrofoam, wax base material. This is to prevent the styrofom from sticking onto the inside of the polymer clay filigree beads as it shrunk, refer to my test, http://www.garieinternational.com.sg/clay/pc_foam.htm PC paints in a Cloissone type bead or pendant, etc ????? As for the above question, I have not done any with PC paints in a Cloissione bead or pendant. The only way that you can create the above, is to use miniature glass light bulb fill it with Deko Liquid Gel, dropped a few drops of color Polyclaylic Paints, create a pattern inside the tiny glass bulb. Sent it tobake and you have your pendant. I hope I have answer your question, if I have further test and creation in relation to your second question, I will inform you. I understands your position about having children, I have seen miracle and there's always hope. Regards, Garie Subject: [clay-polymer] Polymer clay paints Date: 09 May 2006 PM 11:15:34 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Adirondack inks, you can also color any of the liquid clays with oil paint and mica powders. The Home Page for our group has a painting where these things were added to Translucent Liquid Sculpey to create the painted background. I've found them at Michaels and Hobby Lobby. As I mix up a color, I stick a round label on the top with what the medium and color is as I've found I can't remember what I used if I don't. Another alternative container is to use film canisters and if you can find the white ones, that is even better. All the film canisters are compatible with the liquid clays. pcPolyzine Editorial Board Advisor www.clay-essentials.com Subject: [clay-polymer] Re: Create Your Own PC Paints and Realistic Miniature Cakes- Garie Date: 10 May 2006 AM 12:27:30 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com happen to have any tutorials that show a hollow filligree type bead made with the styrofoam procedure ??? Or anything bead wise related to that process ???? this, but you dont use styrofoam. You use the starch beads that you can get in the kids department at a craft store (like michaels). they are usually shaped like styro peanuts, but you can kind of carve them a bit before using them. The reason you use them is that after the bead has been baked, you can put them in a bowl of water and the starch stuff will dissolve. one reason you have to be careful when making your pc bead that you dont get the little bugger wet before baking. lol Quite a few years ago there was an article in bead and button that showed some beads being made that way. I would suggest that the main thing is you make sure you have a solid secure ring at both of the hole junctions of the bead (like where the mandrel would be if you were making a glass bead). and use a hard pc clay for really detailed work )fimo classic, i like kato clay for it too. years. AND YEARS! lol Subject: [clay-polymer] Re: Create Your Own PC Paints and Realistic Miniature Cakes- Garie Date: 10 May 2006 AM 12:37:12 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com As for the above question, I have not done any with PC paints in a Cloissione bead or pendant. The only way that you can create the above, is to use miniature glass light bulb fill it with Deko Liquid Gel, dropped a few drops of color Polyclaylic Paints, create a pattern inside the tiny glass bulb. Sent it to bake and you have your pendant. I hope I have answer your question, if I have further test and creation in relation to your There are different ways you can do them. an easy way is to make an impression in the clay with a rubber stamp. Now i like to use my craft knife and make the raised lines thinner, but that doing it this way is nice because then i use the pc paints to fill in the areas (and feel free to shade like you really would with glass enamels. then bake and then i would take the piece AFTER I SANDED IT, and would take a metel color sharpie and very carefully paint the lines. you dont need to sand the piece much before, because i would usually seal with a varnish using this technique. working on. getting each element exactly right, and making the impression in the clay where it belongs. do a first bake. take the wires out (carefully) do your pc paint thing, bake. then i would use a smalllllll amount of pc friendly glue and re insert the wires and tada!!!! cloissone! Subject: Re: [clay-polymer] Re: Create Your Own PC Paints and Realistic Miniature Cakes- Garie Date: 10 May 2006 AM 02:45:13 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com I've got a few pinched nerves - and I can't sit, stand, or lay down too long - so, there went my clay play !!!! About the children............Miracles do happen - but after being a cervical cancer survivor - and the procedure they used fried me all up inside - I cannot have any of my own children - although one day I wish I could adopt !!!! I'm disabled - and financially surviving month to month - so, that's difficult too - but who knows - I"m looking into foster parenting - maybe that would be a way to go, there are so many children all over the world that need love - and that I have tons to give !!! So, I know its a way to go - I just wish I could have one of my own - as adopted - from baby - to see grow up !!! It would be so beautiful !!!! Ok - let me not bore you !!! Thanks again, Yami Subject: [clay-polymer] A variation of Garie's cake with TLS Date: 10 May 2006 AM 09:02:57 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com I really loved Garie's cake, but I wanted to be able to skip the making of his polyacrylic paints. After a few tests, I came up with this recipe: Mix together 3 parts of TLS (translucent Liquid Sculpey). 2 to 3 parts of diluent, 8 parts baking soda, and oil paint in the color you want your cake. It should have the consistency of cinnamon bun icing. How much tint you need is what make the diluent ingredient vary. I baked mine is a small foil pan that I made by rolling one end of my acrylic rolling pin, then wrapping another piece around the sides and taping it with masking tape (as long as you don't tape it to the rolling pin, it will slide right off). I baked it at 275 degrees F. If I can figure out how to upload the cake picture that I sent Garie, I will- otherwise Garie was going to add the pic to his site. Have fun baking mini cakes! Subject: [clay-polymer] Re: A variation of Garie's cake with TLS Date: 10 May 2006 AM 10:36:32 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Here her emails and the picture of her TLS cake, http://www.garieinternational.com.sg/clay/tsl_cake.htm A new beginning to miniature cake making, more new ideas and fun. Keep up the good work, Regards, Garie Subject: [clay-polymer] Re: Create Your Own PC Paints and Realistic Miniature Cakes- Garie Date: 10 May 2006 AM 11:03:46 To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: clay-polymer@yahoogroups.com Over the years, I have receive many emails, encouraging words from parents about their kid's improvement, especially autistic, dyslexic and adhd kids just by playing with clay. Always, thanks for your kind words, Take care, Regards, Garie |
